Toomas Karmo: Postscriptum 2018.a. esseele ladina keele õppimise teemal / Postscript to 2018 Essay on the Studying of Latin

Kvaliteedihinnang: - Quality assessment:

Selle viiepallilise skaala kohaselt, mis kehtib praegu Eestis, ja kindlasti ka naaberriikides, ja on tuttav kadunud, mitte tagantjärele leinatud, NSVL-i akadeemilise elu vaatlejatele (siin rakendades neid kergeid, lõtvu, kriteeriume, mida Kmo rakendab oma nõgises fantaseeritud "Aleksandr Stepanovitsh Popovi nimelises sangarliku raadio instituudis" ja oma nõgises fantaseeritud "Nikolai Ivanovitsh Lobatshevki nimelises sotsialistliku matemaatika instituudis" - kus, fantaasias ette kujutatud kaksikinstituutide lõdva ja vähenõudliku hindamisreeglite kohaselt 1/5 on "eepiline läbikukkukmine", 2/5 "läbikukkumine, mis pole nii katastrofaalne, et eepilusust saavutada", 3/5 on "kehvavõitu läbipääsemine", 4/5 on "hea" ja 5/5 on "eeskujulik": 2/5. Põhjendus: Teema ei võimaldanud filosoofiliselt sügavat käsitlemist. -  On the 5-point scale current in Estonia, and surely in nearby nations, and familiar to observers of the academic arrangements of the late, unlamented, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (applying the easy and lax standards Kmo deploys in his grubby imaginary "Aleksandr Stepanovitsh Popovi nimeline sangarliku raadio instituut" (the "Alexandr Stepanovitch Popov Institute of Heroic Radio") and his  grubby imaginary "Nikolai Ivanovitsh Lobatshevski nimeline sotsalitsliku matemaatika instituut" (the "Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky Institute of Socialist Mathematics") - where, on the lax and easy grading philosophy of the twin Institutes, 1/5 is "epic fail", 2/5 is "failure not so disastrous as to be epic", 3/5 is "mediocre pass", 4/5 is "good", and 5/5 is "excellent"): 2/5. Justification: The chosen theme did not offer scope for philosophical depth.  


Variandikroonika: - Revision history:

Kõik kalendripäevad-kellaajad variandikroonikas on ära toodud UTC-s. UTC, ehk "Maailmakell", on vana GMT-i, ehk "Greenwich Mean Time"-i, täpsustus. Tarvitusel on ISO ettekirjutatud YYYYMMDDThhmmZ ajastembi formaat (kusjuures YYYY on UTC aasta, MM UTC kuu, DD UTC kuupäev, hh UTC tunniarv, mm UTC minutiarv). UTC praegu jookseb Toronto tsiviilkellast 4 tundi ette, Tallinna tsiviilkellast 3 tundi taga. - All times in these blog "revision histories" are stated in UTC (Universal Coordinated Time/ Temps Universel Coordoné,  a precisification of the old GMT, or "Greenwich Mean Time"), in the ISO-prescribed YYYYMMDDThhmmZ timestamping format. UTC currently leads Toronto civil time by 4 hours and currently lags Tallinn civil time by 3 hours. 
  

• 20190620T0841/variant 1.1.0: Kmo kergelt timmis üht "proovikivi" ladinakeelse-anlüüsi harjutust. Ta tegi ka pisikesi grammatilisi või puhtstiililisi parandusi, ehkki enam kui 48 pärast variandi 1.0.0 koostamist. Üldise kontrolli juures ta märkas, et pakutud  UTC seletused (siit mõni rida ülespoole) paraku vastasid Eesti ning Kanada talvekelladele, mitte Eesti ning Kanada suvekelladele. Seegi punkt on nüüd korda pandud. Kmo jättis endale õigust teha veelgi pisikesi, sisusliselt tähtsusetuid, puhtkosmeetilisi õiendusi, järgmise 200 tunni jooksul, kui siin protokollimata variandid 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3, ... . - Kmo fine-tuned one of his "touchstone" Latin-analysis exercises. He also make some tiny grammatical and stylistic repairs, even though more than 48 hours had passed since his writing of version 1.0.0. In the course of his general checking, Kmo noticed that his offered acount of UTC (a few lines above this present sentence) was unfortunately fitted to Estonian and Canadian civil winter time, rather than to Estonian and Canadian civil summer time. This fault he likewise corrected.  Kmo reserved the right to make further tiny, nonsubstantive, purely cosmetic, tweaks, over the coming 200 hours, as here-undocumented version 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3, ... . 
• 20190617T1851Z/variant 1.0.0: Kmo laadis piisavalt  lihtivud tööd blogspoti serverile. Ta jättis enda kätte õiguse teha veel pisikesi, sisusliselt tähtsusetuid, puhtkosmeetilisi õiendusi, järgmise 48 tunni jooksul, kui siin protkollimata variandid 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 1.0.3, ...   - Kmo uploaded an adequately  polished version to the blogspot server. He reserved the right to make further tiny, nonsubstantive, purely cosmetic, tweaks, over the coming 48 hours, as here-undocumented versions 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 1.0.3, ... . 

[FILOLOOGILINE TEAVE: Lahkel lugejal palun andestada minu eestikeelseid kirjavigu. Kui pensionieas Välis-Eestist Eestisse ümberasuja, läinud aastakümnete pagulusolude sunnil ilma kodukeelse koolihariduseta, pean ma oma kirjakeelt nüüd parandama peamiselt praktilise harjutamise teel. Sellega ongi siinsamas blogspotis vahetevahelt algusi tehtud, ehkki kohmakalt. Keelelised parandusettepankud oleksid teretulnud, aadressil Toomas.Karmo@gmail.com. - LINGUISTIC NOTE: I ask the Gentle Reader to forgive my blemishes in Estonian prose. As a pension-aged resettler from the Estonian diaspora to Estonia, obliged by exile-diaspora circumstances over the past decades to forego formal Estonian schooling, I must now improve my Estonian prose composition for the most part simply through practice. I have made such a practical-prose beginning here and there in blogspot, albeit clumsily. Linguistic corrections would be welcome, at the address Toomas.Karmo@gmail.com.] 

Taustakirjeldus - Background 

2018.a. talve lõpul, minu viimasel Kanadas asumise aasta alguses, ma kirjutasin ladina keele pedagoogikast  siinses blogspotis inglise keeles, rubriigil "Studying Latin: Some Theoretical Whys, Some Practical Hows" (URL-il http://toomaskarmo.blogspot.com/2018/02/toomas-karmo-studying-latin-some.html).  Nüüd on aeg käes mullu Kanadas alustatud teemal pisut Eestis jätkata, ühe teatud esilekerkinud isiku julgustamiseks.  - At the end of 2018 winter, at the start of my final year of living in Canada, I wrote on the subject of Latin studies here in blogspot in English, under the heading "Studying Latin: Some Theoretical Whys, Some Practical hows" (at the URL http://toomaskarmo.blogspot.com/2018/02/toomas-karmo-studying-latin-some.html). The time has now come for me to continue, here in Estonia, with the theme that I started in Canada, so as to encourage a certain recently emerging individual. 

Nimelt on üks noorevõitu tudeng, prl või hr "ABC", astunud skaibiühendusse välismaalt, paludes minu nõu tema algavas ladinakeele õppimises. "ABC" on ülikooli lõpetanud. Seega pole ta hetkel kursustel, ja seega vajaks ta veel eriti kellegi nõu. Nõu ma pakun talle rõõmsalt ning tasutult. Ma leian, et sobiv on neid nõuandeid ka laiema Interneti üldsusega jagada, kuna nad võiksid tulevikus teistelegi kasulikuks osutuda. -  Specifically, a rather youthful student, Miss or Mr "ABC", has recently started Skype communication from abroad, asking my advice in her or his just-launched Latin studies. "ABC" has finished university. He or she is consequently not at the moment enrolled in courses, and consequently is in particular need of advice. I give her or him my help cheerfully and for free. I find it additionally appropriate to share my tips with the general Internet readership, since my advice may in future prove useful to persons other than ABC.  

Siinjuures on vaid üks hoiatus ehk "caveat" ("Cave canem" = "Hoia koera eeset", "Caveat emptor" = "Ostja olgu valvel"). Ehkki ma saan ABC-d aidata tasutult, ei ole mul tulevikus võimalik säärast abi mitmele kinkida. Seega caveant omnes! Juhul, kui mõnel ilusal päeval pöördub minu poole mõni teine ning kolmas isik "BCD" ning "CDE" analoogsete vajadustega, oleksin ma sunnitud suhtuma jõudsalt kasvavasse asjasse mitte täiesti eitavalt, kuid siiski kui ettevõtja ehk teenustemüüja. Kui, ütleme hüpoteetiliselt, kaugema tuleviku prl BCD osutub välismaalaseks nagu ABC, peaksin ma temaga koos uurima PayPal'i tasuvõimalusi. Ja kui, ütleme jälle hüpoteetiliselt, kaugema tuleviku hr CDE osutub eestimaalaseks, peaksin ma temalt paluma mingisugust sobivat tasu kas sularaha või pangaülekande või õunapuudepügamistööde näol, või - mis veelgi parem - minu eesti kirjakeele parandamises. - A reservation or "caveat" arises here. ("Cave canem" = "Look out for the dog", "Caveat emptor" = "Let the purchaser beware.") Although I can help ABC for free, it will not be feasible for me in future to offer this type of help to many people. So caveant omnes! If it should one fine day happen that some second and third individuals "Miss BCD" and "Mr CDE" turn to me with needs similar to those of ABC, I would be obliged to adopt, toward the vigorously expanding situation, an attitude not altogether negative, and yet nevertheless entrpreneurial, as appropriate in the selling of a service. If (let us hypothetically suppose) the BCD of the remoter future proves to be a foreigner, as ABC is, then I would have to explore PayPal financial-transfer possibilities with her. And if (let us again hypothetically suppose) the CDE of the more remote future turns out to be Estonian, I would have to ask him for appropriate compensation in cash or by bank transfer or by way of apple-tree pruning - or, what would be still better, through his tutoring me in Estonian prose composition. 

Et ABC privaatsust kaitsta, ma siin ei seleta, millest soost on ABC, ega milles konkreetses välisriigis ta asub (ja veel ammugi mitte, milles linnas). Ma näiteks ei kinnita ega lükka ümber oletust, et ABC asub kusagil Aasias. Siin tuletaksin vaid meelde hea ameerika vanasõna, Las Vegase kohta, mis sobiiks iga linna-küla-aleviku kohta, asugu see kas Ameerikas või (näiteks) Aasias, Aafrikas või Austraalias: Mis sünnib Vegases jäägu Vegasesse. - To protect ABC's privacy, I will not here divulge ABC's gender or in what particular foreign country ABC is living (and much less in what foreign city). I for example neither confirm nor deny the supposition that ABC lives somewhere in Asia. Here I would simply call to mind the good American proverb, concerning Las Vegas, applicable to any city-town-village-hamlet anywhere, be it in America or (e.g.) in Asia, Africa, or Australia: What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. 

Konkreetseid soovitusi ABC-le ning teistele (1): Seadke sisse ajaregister - Concrete advice for ABC and others (1): Set up  a timelog

Peab kindlaks tegema, et vajalik aeg saab vajalikus mahus investeeritud. Nagu ma eelpoolmainitud essees (http://toomaskarmo.blogspot.com/2018/02/toomas-karmo-studying-latin-some.html) 2018.a. nentisin, grammatika aluste õppimise puhul sobivalt kompaktsest ja asjalikust raamatust (isiklikult eelistaksin ma seal-mainitud Bettsi Teach Yourself Latin), tuleks investeerida paarsada tundi. ("...thanks to almost two millennia of systematized teaching, we know just how long it takes to master Latin declensions and conjugations, for the pupil of average intelligence at or beyond late adolescence. With decently brisk instruction books, such a pupil does not need six hundred desk hours. Three hundred, perhaps even two hundred, or in the case of a really gifted pupil under two hundred, are known to suffice." - "...tänu ligi kahe aastatuhande süstemaatiseeritule õpetamisele, me teame küllaltki täpselt, kui kaua aega läheb ladinakeele käändkondade ja pöördkondade omaksvõtmiseks, keskpäraste võimetega tudengi puhul kas teismelise ea lõpu poole või veel kõrgemas elueas. Viisakalt kiiretempoliste õpikute juures niisugune õpilane ei vajaks kuutsada õppelaua tundi. On teada, et piisab kolmestsajast, võimalikult isegi paaristsajast, ja erakordselt andeka õpilase puhul koguni alla kahesajast tunnist.") - It is necessary to make check that time has been duly invested. As I mentioned in the above-cited 2018 essay (http://toomaskarmo.blogspot.com/2018/02/toomas-karmo-studying-latin-some.html), for the learning of foundational grammar from a suitable compact and businesslike book (personally I prefer the there-mentioned book by Betts, Teach Yourself Latin), it would be appropriate to invest a couple of hundred hours. ("...thanks to almost two millennia of systematized teaching, we know just how long it takes to master Latin declensions and conjugations, for the pupil of average intelligence at or beyond late adolescence. With decently brisk instruction books, such a pupil does not need six hundred desk hours. Three hundred, perhaps even two hundred, or in the case of a really gifted pupil under two hundred, are known to suffice.") 

Siinjuures ma soovitaksin oma enda harjumust, kus ka olen läbi mõnegi aasta pidanud oma iga olulise õppeaine juures ajaregistri, arvutis, lameda-ASCII ehk *.txt formaadis. - Here I would recommend my own routine, under which I have for quite a few years been keeping a timelog for each of my significant study subjects, on computer, in flat-ASCII (*.txt) format. 

Näitena toon siin, osaliselt, üks minu mitmest registrist - nimelt see, mis aitas mul valvata minu privaatset ladina keele õppimist, kui ma võtsin ladina keele uuesti käsile alatest 2007.a. (Ma olin küll veel kaugemas minevikus, aastail 1982-1983, olnud kursustel Austraalias, osaliselt Bettsi enda auditooriumis. Järelikult ei ole ma õpilase ABC raskemas seisundis. Tema praegune algus, vastandina minu 2007-09-29 algusele, on puhtalt nullist.) Antud näitest on näha, et ma hilisemates faasides olin oluliste autorite juures: "regula s. Benedicti" on vihje Nursia Benektiinuse munkade Reeglile, "Latin Prose" aga vihje Ontario (Kanada) gümnaasiumitele mõeldud umbes 1960.a.-st kogumikule, kus on pikki lõiki Caesarist ning Cicerost, lühemaid lõiki veel teistest autoritest.   - In illustration, I reproduce here, in part, one of my many timelogs - namely the one which helped me monitor my private Latin study, when I took up Latin again, as a refresher, from 2007 onward. (I indeed had in the more remote past, in the years 1982 and 1983, taken courses in Australia, in part in Betts's own classroom. Consequently my position is easier than ABC's. Her or his own beginning, in contrast to my 2007-09-29 beginning, is a beginning from zero.) From this illustration it can be seen that in the later phases of my work I have been using appropriate authors: "regula s. Benedicti" in the timelog is a reference to the monastic Rule from Benedict of Nursia, and "Latin Prose" a reference to a 1960-era Ontario (Canada) high-school anthology, offering long extracts from Caesar and Cicero, as well as shorter extracts from other authors.) 

20070929=02h02->0002h02 (HEBD 0000)
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((/.../))

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20170728=01h21->0402h31__legebam in antologia "Latin Prose",
                         in parte secundaria
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* HEBDOMA_PERDITA
* HEBDOMA_PERDITA
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Konkreetseid soovitusi ABC-le ning teistele (2): Kontrollige oma oskusi minu pisikeste "proovikividega" - Concrete advice for ABC and others (2): Check your skills with my small "touchstone" exercises

ABC saab kontrollida oma ladina analüüsimisoskusi paariminutilse vestluse juures, kui me järgmisel korral skaibime. Tal on hetkel Bettsi esimene peatükk vist läbi võetud. Seega siis pakuksin pisikesi proovikive, millega saab juba ülilühikese vestluse jooksul kontrollida, et tema esimese-peatüki asi on korras. Õpilane ABC tõlkigu mulle järgmisi proovikive inglise keelde, oma skaibimikrofoni juures: - ABC can check her or his Latin analysis skills in the course of a two-minute chat, when we next Skype. She or he has now perhaps finished the first chapter in Betts. I would consequently offer some tiny touchstones, through which we can confirm, in a brief chat, that ABC's first-chapter affairs are in good shape. Let student ABC translate the following touchstones into English, at his or her Skype microphone:  

* (a) insulae puellarum
* (b) puellae insularum
* (c) Nauta puellam amat.
* (d) Puellam nauta amat.
* (e) Nautam puella amat.
* (f) Puella nautam amat.
* (g) Puellae nautas amant.
* (h) Puellas nautae amant.
* (i) Nauta insulam puellae amat.
* (j) Nauta puellam agricolae amat.
* (k) Nautae puellas insularum amant.
* (l) Agricola est in insula cum puella.
* (m) Agricola est in insula cum puellis. 
* (n) Agricolae in insula cum puella sunt.
* (o) Agricolae in insulis cum puellis sunt.   

[See on praeguse blogspoti pala lõpp. - This is the end of the current blogspot posting.]